At the completion of the canon, there would be a clear perspective through which we would look at things. We have lost the “fear of the Lord, and speculations run rampant. If you tear it apart too much, you lose the beauty. There was a mixture of nationalities here. John had not written his gospel, his three letters, or the book of Revelation. The city of Corinth produced some of the best-polished bronze mirrors in the world at that time. His statement in 1 Corinthians 13:13 could be literally rendered “faith, hope, and love remains.” Paul’s point is that, essentially, faith, hope, and love are united; what happens to one happens to all. Paul separates time into two great periods: the present age, and the future age. 1 Corinthians 13:2(NASB) Verse Thoughts There are many gifts that are given through the Holy Spirit, as He chooses, but unless those spiritual gifts are ministered to one another, through love, they are of little significance and of no spiritual value at all. Paul’s present knowledge was dim and indistinct, but when the canon would be complete, Christians would have a clear knowledge of God’s mind. 31 Conzelmann, 1 Corinthians, 211, n 7 and n 8. 1 Corinthians 13:11-12. For now we see only a reflection as in a mirror; then we shall see face to face. 063 - Making the Invisible Visible: The Function of Scripture's Imagery (Naked Mole Rat) Sermons: The Gift of Love Study the original Hebrew/Greek with … Many commentators use similar occurrences in the Old Testament (Ex. The apostle Paul told first-century fellow believers: “At present we see in hazy outline by means of a metal mirror.” (1 Corinthians 13:12) Such a mirror did not have the best reflective surface. Again, the meaning is the same, and the difference is really minor. But whether there are [gifts of] prophesying, they will be done away with; whether there are tongues, they will cease; whether there is knowledge, it will be done away with. Again, we have the term “in part.” Paul knew, “in part.” This is the same meaning as 13:9. 1-11 And the way I will show you is the way of perfection. In the present age, God’s people are not perfect, and their relationship with God is not yet complete. katoptrizw (verb) in 2nd Cor was the most common term in the papyri for a mirror–it is something that produces a reflection. They were thought of as being one of the wealthiest cities of the area. The implication of this idiom in 1 Cor 13:12 is that there will be clear understanding, and in some languages it is necessary to shift somewhat the figurative expression. As seeing in a mirror dimly is a metaphor, so is the phrase “face to face” a metaphor. 12 We don’t yet see things clearly. 1 Corinthians 13:1-3 Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, and have not charity, I am become as sounding brass, or a tinkling cymbal. Paul’s present knowledge was dim and indistinct, but when the canon would be complete, Christians would have a clear knowledge of God’s mind (2014 AD we should be in that era). The fundamental ideas of this word are 1) to become thoroughly acquainted with, to know thoroughly; to know accurately, know well. There is gross over interpretation of this term when people try to imply that the Greek term ipso facto means heaven. What Paul knew in part was God’s mind through the gifts of prophecy and knowledge. I think that the best way to introduce the text for today’s message (1 Cor. Thread starter Romans922; Start date Jan 28, 2009; Status Not open for further replies. Question: "What does it mean that faith, hope, and love remain (1 Corinthians 13:13)?" 11 When I was a child, I talked like a child, I thought like a child, I reasoned like a child. And what happens is that they “remain.” The fact that faith, hope, and love remain must be understood in light of the broader context. In the future age, when Christ is ruling, those gifts will have achieved their purpose. 1 Corinthians 13:11-12 Paul admonishes us—by instructing us "to put away childish things" (verse 11), as well as his reference to a mirror (verse 12)—that love is something we grow in. 11 When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things. (1 Corinthians 13:8-13) 8 Love never fails. Greeks and Romans made up most the people. Barnes's 1-corinthians 13:11 Bible Commentary When I was a child - The idea here is, that the knowledge which we now have, compared with that which we shall have in heaven, is like that which is possessed in infancy compared with that we have in manhood; and that as, when we advance in years, we lay aside, as unworthy of our attention, the views, feelings, and plans which we had in boyhood, and which we then … They desire to know God and to see him. James 3:1,2. (Yes, it was a “copy and shadow of the heavenly things.”) Let’s get back to 1 Corinthians. (1 Corinthians 13:12 RSV) Clearly here he is anticipating the end of life, the dawning of a new day when the morning will break and every shadow will flee away; all the imperfection of life will come to an end, and love will stand face to face with love. George, I am not minimizing the difficulty of interpreting this passage, however, let me offer these answers to your question: 1 Corinthians Commentary > chapter 13. Regarding the parallel between 1 & 2 Co–the idea in 1st Co is revelation but the idea in 2nd Co is specifically the glory of God per se. It doesn’t take much to see that the world we live in is a dark and broken place. It must be perfected. 13:12 he was saying the “mirror” was the Word/revelation but that it was “dim” because it was incomplete revelation, does the “mirror” of 2 Cor. We are beginning one of the most important letters that Paul wrote to the churches he had begun. Scriptural Translation What does this quote really mean? What does it mean to know just as I also am known? 2 Co 3:18, But we all, with unveiled face, beholding as in a mirror (the Bible) the glory of the Lord, are being transformed into the same image from glory to glory, just as by the Spirit of the Lord. Does it mean that … Manney, yes, for revival to come there must be confession and God coming to show Himself and His glory through the Word and work in individuals. But where there are prophecies, they will cease; where there are tongues, they will be stilled; where there is knowledge, it will pass away.” Explanation and Commentary on 1 Corinthians 13:8. If one agrees that “the perfect” means the completed revelation of the Scriptures, then Paul lived during the “now,” whereas believers today are living during the “then.” If the first part of this verse describes a believer in Paul’s day seeing his own face “dimly,” in the imperfect mirror of partial revelation, it would follow that “but then face to face” refers to believers today seeing their own faces in the superior mirror of completed revelation, that is, in the biblical canon. Βλέπομεν , we see ) This corresponds in the LXX. One of the outskirts of Corinth was Cenchrea, which was a seaport. The delimited gifts of prophecy and knowledge were limited revelation, but there would be a finished revelation at some point future to Paul’s time (around 50 – 70 AD). If three-quarters of a jigsaw puzzle were missing, we would have an enigma, a puzzle. Wesley's 1-corinthians 13:12 Bible Commentary 13:12 Now we see - Even the things that surround us. Read Genesis 1:27. (1 Corinthians 13:12) Context: 8 Love never fails. Though Fee recognizes a problem with this view, he nonetheless accepts it. 52 Harold W. Hoehner, "The Purpose of Tongues in 1 Corinthians 14:20-25," in Walvoord: A Tribute, ed. That happen before the completion of the canon. Paul spoke of the meaning of Godly love in 1 Corinthians 13:4-8. (1 Corinthians 13:12) Context: 8 Love never fails. It carries the idea that we now see only a refracted image, obscurely, and not face to face as we shall hereafter. We have a faith once delivered to the saints: Jude 3, Beloved, while I was very diligent to write to you concerning our common salvation, I found it necessary to write to you exhorting you to contend earnestly for the faith which was once for all delivered to the saints. The important element for us is that now, because of His merciful revelation of … The supremacy of love. Mirrors in Bible times were usually made of highly polished metal. 1 Mga Taga-Corinto 13:12 Study the Inner Meaning 12 Sapagka't ngayo'y malabo tayong nakakikita sa isang salamin; ... Related New Christian Commentary Stories and their meanings: Bible Study Videos: 245 - To Do All Things Well. A. The word “now” refers to the present state at Paul’s time of incomplete revelation in contrast to a finished revelation. 30 Bock, 1 Corinthians, 2. The purpose of those gifts is to help God’s people in the present age, during their lives in this world. We love the Lord through the Word of God, but one day we will have direct knowledge of Him and fellowship with Him personally. Mirrors of the first century were not as clear as the mirrors of today, for they were dim. An enigma is a puzzle. (Like God!) The word “dimly” means an enigma. by Grant Richison | Jan 4, 2003 | 1 Corinthians | 15 comments, “For now we see in a mirror, dimly, but then face to face. Chapter 13 goes one step further and mentions the three gifts that are common for all Christians: faith, … Many Christians believe the Christian life is all about sacrifice – sacrificing your money, your life, for the cause of Jesus Christ. One translator describes what "we see in a mirror, dimly," as "a riddle and an enigma." Of course these verses are in metaphoric or parabolic language. We can get the big picture by thinking through the chapter with the following outline in mind: love’s indispensability, its beauty, and its permanence. In 1 Corinthians 13:8 1 Corinthians 13:8 Charity never fails: but whether there be prophecies, they shall fail; whether there be tongues, they shall cease; whether there be knowledge, it shall vanish away. “Face to face” is a metaphor for seeing something clearly as over against dimly and is not a reference to seeing God “face to face.” Paul’s knowing in part, repeats his statement of 13:9, where knowing in part was knowledge of God’s revelation. Of course, God has already done many wonderful things in the lives of his people (6:11). Romans922 Puritan Board Professor. Commentary on 1 Corinthians 13:1-3 (Read 1 Corinthians 13:1-3 ) The excellent way had in view in the close of the former chapter, is not what is meant by charity in our common use of the word, almsgiving, but love in its fullest meaning; true love to God and man. Second, Numbers 12:6–8 emphasizes not a prophet’s fellowship with God, but God’s revelation to Moses, which was direct and therefore clear (“mouth to mouth, even openly”) and not indirect and indistinct (“in a vision … in a dream … in dark sayings”). Now I know in part; then I shall know fully, even as I am fully known.”. μαίνει καὶ ἐπίτασιν ἐνεργέιας, then shall I fully know even as also I was fully known, Ellicott's Commentary for English Readers. 1 Corinthians 13 is the thirteenth chapter of the First Epistle to the Corinthians in the New Testament of the Christian Bible.It is authored by Paul the Apostle and Sosthenes in Ephesus.This chapter covers the subject of Love. Regarding the word “mirror” in 1 Co 13:12, the word is a noun meaning mirror. American King James Version × the apostle Paul wrote: "Love never fails. 1 Corinthians 13 – Agape Love. John had not written his gospel, his three letters, or the book of Revelation. God’s glory is eternal because of the presence of the Holy Spirit. iv. (translation: Tagalog: Ang Dating Biblia (1905)) And though I have the gift of prophecy, and understand all mysteries, and all knowledge; and though I have all faith, so that I could remove mountains, and have not charity, I am nothing. These gifts remain with God’s people, now and always. 9 For we know in part and we prophesy in part, 10 but when completeness comes, what is in part disappears. Secondary means of knowledge cannot convey a clear image, only direct knowledge can. Donald K. Campbell (Chicago: Moody Press, 1982), 55, argues that since: 1) the term glwvssa usually refers to a known language; 2) tongues need to be interpreted; 3) Isaiah refers to real human languages of the Assyrians and 4) Acts 2:4 appears to be real languages; 5) Luke and Paul seem to … How is childhood indirect and adulthood direct? 1 Corinthians 12:13. to perceive, to know i.e. 1 Corinthians 13:12. Now I know in part, but then I shall know just as I also am known.". We have a much more fully developed revelation in a complete canon. '” As the pre-canon period is to the child, so the post-canon period is to the adult. At first, then, comprehension of spiritual light would be limited. For example, it may be necessary to render this passage as ‘how we now understand is like seeing a dim image in a mirror, but then we shall understand as clearly as though we were seeing face to face’ or ‘… as though we were seeing something directly.’ The city of Corinth was believed to be a city of about 600,000 people when this was written to them. Love is not rude, meaning that it does not act indecently, sinning and breaking cultural norms to bring attention to one's self. Rather than focusing on sound doctrine, the Corinthians, like today’s charismatics, were too engaged in emotional experiences—especially the gift of tongues (refer to the 40 verses of 1 Corinthians chapter 14). Paul introduces a second illustration of the difference of understanding between finished revelation and his present state of incomplete revelation – the mirror. I may have knowledge, but it is still fragmentary, I read as it were on a mirror the reflections which I cannot yet quite make out. If three-quarters of a jigsaw puzzle were missing, we would have an enigma, a puzzle. 9 For we know in part, and we prophesy in part. (Daniel 12:4) The supremacy of love. The speaking of tongues of which Paul speaks in 1 Corinthians 12-14 is ecstatic speech that hinders communication unless an interpreter is provided. 1 Corinthians 13:12 contains the phrase βλέπομεν γὰρ ἄρτι δι' ἐσόπτρου ἐν αἰνίγματι (blepomen gar arti di esoptrou en ainigmati), which was translated in the 1560 Geneva Bible as "For now we see through a glass darkly" (without a comma), which wording was used in … 1 Corinthians 13:12 Context. The Apostle Paul spent 18 months there on his Second Missionary Journey and established a church there. 1-11 And the way I will show you is the way of perfection. The words “just as” mean exact correspondence, so we cannot know God fully. This idea of the obscurity and imperfection of our knowledge, as compared with heaven, the apostle illustrates 1 Corinthians 13:11 by comparing it with the knowledge which a child has, compared with that in maturer years and 1 Corinthians 13:12 by the knowledge which we have in looking through a glass - an imperfect medium - compared with that which we have in looking closely and directly at an object … This is nothing like a theophany (seeing God in a physical manifestation), but is a revelation of God through His Word. Miriam and Aaron’s charge against Moses concerned his role as a prophet: “Has the Lord indeed spoken only through Moses?” (v. 2). 12:8 etc) to infer that its when believers are with Christ. 10 But when that which is perfect is come, then that which is in part shall be done away. If this Jesus was worth following, why didn’t all of their … First, it seems to mix metaphors. Similarly 1 Corinthians 13:12 is referring not to a believer’s future fellowship with God but to revelation from God. Deb, the Greek word in 2 Co 3:18 is a term for sensory state or event (katoptrizw)for “seeing.” It is a different word than in 1 Co 13:12 (esoptrou). One of the outskirts of Corinth was Cenchrea, which was a seaport. By the time the first century ended, the New Testament had been completed and it was in wide circulation. Regarding the word “mirror” in 1 Co 13:12, the word is a noun meaning mirror. None of the gospels was written when Paul wrote 1 Corinthians. But by means of a glass - Or mirror, which reflects only their imperfect forms, in a dim, faint, obscure manner; so that our thoughts about them are puzzling and intricate, and everything is a kind of riddle to us. I’m interested in the interpretation of “face to face”. 3:18 still refer to revelation, or specifically to the New Covenant–and isn’t that still “revelation” of the Word? 13:8-12) is to state how Paul develops the theme of love in 1 Corinthians 13as a whole. That is, if in 1 Cor. While the expression “face to face” in other contexts may refer to fellowship, nevertheless in 1 Corinthians 13:12 it describes the difference between seeing oneself in a mirror dimly and seeing oneself in a mirror face to face. Paul regards it as a legitimate gift, but neither as the greatest gift nor as essential (1 Corinthians 13:1). Ancient mirrors were of polished metal, easily tarnished, and any image … 14:37; 16:18 in the sense of “acknowledge” and “recognition”. … Regarding uses in the Old Testament note this comment: Job, 8:9 and 1Cor.8:2,3. speak to the vast knowledge of spiritual things of which we know nothing. At some time, the spiritual gifts of prophecy, tongues, and knowledge will not exist, but Godly love will still be there. There are many gifts that are given through the Holy Spirit, as He chooses, but unless those spiritual gifts are ministered to one another, through love, they are of little significance and of no spiritual value at all. As Paul explained in 1 Corinthians 13:8-12, God does not intend for those gifts to be permanent. 29 For a discussion of the chiastic structure of 12:12 see Fee, 1 Corinthians, 601. 1 Mga Taga-Corinto 13:12 - Sapagka't ngayo'y malabo tayong nakakikita sa isang salamin; nguni't pagkatapos ay makikita natin sa mukhaan: ngayo'y nakikilala ko ng bahagya, nguni't pagkatapos ay makikilala ko ng gaya naman ng pagkakilala sa akin. The Corinthians were spiritually immature (1 Corinthians 3:1-2), and they were ignorant of spiritual gifts and they were misusing and abusing them (1 Corinthians 12:1–14:40). [⇑ See verse text ⇑] Paul has been describing our knowledge of God and His ways as incomplete or partial. For by one Spirit are we all baptized This is to be understood not of water baptism; for the apostle says not in one, and the same water, but "by", or "in" one Spirit, are we all baptized; the baptism of water, and of the Spirit, are two different things; see ( Matthew 3:11) .Besides, all that are baptized in water, are not baptized in or by the Spirit, as the case of Simon Magus, and that of others, … If you tear it apart too much, you lose the beauty. Paul had only partial revelation in the time he lived. What we have now is partial. Note this exegetical comment from Louw, J. P., & Nida, E. A. Nonetheless, for any restoration or revival do we not need the manifestation of the Lord? What Does 1 Corinthians 13:2 Mean? Quote words Original Greek Meaning/ Definition This is a simplified translation … The more we know the Word, the more we know Christ. 1 Corinthians 13:11-12. Full revelation would bring full knowledge of God’s mind. Paul insisted that every spiritual gift … The city of Corinth was believed to be a city of about 600,000 people when this was written to them. In 1 Corinthians 13:13, Paul tells us about three other gifts that God gives. The word “know” in the previous phrase, and this phrase picks up the partial knowledge found in the gift of knowledge. “The analogy, of course, breaks down a bit, since one sees one’s own face in a mirror, and Paul’s point is that in our present existence one ‘sees’ God (presumably) … only indirectly.”25 However, Paul’s point is to contrast one looking in a mirror “dimly” with one looking in a mirror “face to face.” 1 Corinthians 13:8 “Love never fails. In 1 Corinthians 12, he uses the extended metaphor of the human body to illustrate that every gift from every member is important to "the big picture" of what Christ wants to do with His body. Jan 28, 2009 #1 What does this verse mean: "12 For now we see in a mirror, dimly, but then face to face. When the “perfect” comes, it will supersede the partial. Possibly the true meaning of the words ... That there is, in fact, just such an emphasis in this 1 Corinthians 13:12, is proved by Paul's prompt return to the "now" in the final verse immediately after this. Paul introduces a second illustration of the difference of understanding between finished revelation and his present state of incomplete revelation – the mirror. At first, then, comprehension of spiritual light would be limited. Required fields are marked *, Notify me of followup comments via e-mail, Designed by Elegant Themes Sickness, violence, war, and hatred seem to exist everywhere we look. When we stop to consider all the ways things seem wrong, we have to ask, “Does God care?” Living in the middle of an evil people, the Corinthian believers must have felt hopeless. 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